Circular Tiling with 5 images instead of having only one as source

I want to make the suggestion to ThreeDee that if he want I can post the filter here and he could upload it to the library or have it available here in the forum if he wants.

I do not want to post it here without his agreement.

I wanted to make also this filter so you COULD be able to choose which image will be in each ring but after looking at how this filter works, it could be possible BUT would involve much more work than just changing the image source and modifying a few of the settings so it looks right.

And I think that this filter was thought to be used with just ONE image and not to be used with different ones, and probably to make it able to choose which images goes in each of the rings involves a different technique than the one used here.

I have had an idea to make it possible with this filter as it is now, but would involve a lot of duplicating components to get the effect and surely there can be a simpler and easier way to do it.

one more

and making something like a possible frame with 3 of the source images choosen randomly

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ThreeDee wrote: Yes, no problem either way.

Thanks, then I will upload it (when totally finished and tested) here for you or anyone other that wants to have this.

Here is one with transparent objects and background texture

less frequency of the objects

BE ABLE TO CHOOSE WHICH IMAGE GOES TO A CHOOSEN RING

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SpaceRay wrote: I wanted to make also this filter so you COULD be able to choose which image will be in each ring but after looking at how this filter works, it could be possible BUT would involve much more work than just changing the image source and modifying a few of the settings so it looks right.

If anyone knows a way to be able to define and choose the image you want to appear on each ring instead of the random one would be very good, although surely this is not easy to do, and perhaps involves much work.

BE ABLE TO MIX THE 5 IMAGES IN THE SAME RING

I have also thought about the idea of being able to make only one ring that could have all the 5 images in this same ring.

Or have 1 or 3 rings that each one has random mix of images from the 5 images sources (does not need to have all 5 on the same ring) but also after some thinking and trying I do not know how to do it.

You should try to randomize which element is placed on each spot on the ring. You do that before the line of elements is formed.

Either that, or you make 5 lines and then randomize the blend between them.

hmm... I keep thinking to myself that the filter should be remade using 3.0 stuff. Wouldn't know how to do that because I haven't personally made attempts but I think by remaking it in 3.0, you have the benefit of doing more complex operations like described.

And in some ways stringing 3.0 nodes into 1.0 nodes causes issues.

I have tried to modify this filter in some way to be able to mix the lines as Morgantao suggested, BUT the way this filter is done is very complex and does NOT allow modifications and I have tried many things and all of them breaks and destroys the elements and you can only have ONE line of elements and if you try to combine more lines is a mess and they look awful and mixed in a weird way.

So I will not continue searching for a way to do it UNLESS someone tells me HOW this filter works or someone can know a good way to make this.

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Morgantao then blend the 5 lines back into one line using masks. Then feed the new single line into the rest of the filter, as it is now.

I am sorry to tell you that this would not work, anyway that you may make the lines AND then make one single line it will always show one element per ring, so even your suggestion will give the same result.

I have found in the forum this other thread that explains a little more the technique behind this circular or radial tiling and is more shown inside the filter itself as in the filter editor you can see some small notes on color controls added.

Please see, Radial Repeating Features

In the this thread you have to search for the Radial Repeat Snippet that KGtheway2B has uploaded there.

In this other filter ALSO you can only make ONE single element per ring.

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Morgantao Doh, I just read your original question again, and I totaly got it wrong! Sorry for rambling on and on about things you already know, I totaly misunderstood what you were asking.

Do not worry, now I know that this is not easy at all, and it would involve learn how to know and be able to make THE "FOREST" OF GRADIENTS shown below to be able to mask and select the lines, so I will not do it and will keep making more simpler things.

To know what I am asking and do not know how to do it please see the post of

BE ABLE TO CHOOSE WHICH IMAGE GOES TO A CHOOSEN RING

and then also the one after this one, after the answer of Morgantao.

If anyone could know or find a way or solution to this would be greatly appreaciated

Thanks very much

Here is a simpler implementation of the same idea with FF 3, maybe easier to modify for your liking.

Circular multitiling.ffxml

Hello, Thanks very much ThreeDee for this new version you have done, is more simple and easy AND IT WORKS with more than one image per ring!!

Here is below the updated version with 5 images inside each ring, I had a problem doing it as the rings were very small, so then I had the idea to use the scale to make them bigger and it works.

This version is not perfect and can be surely be made better but this what I have done until now.

Circular multitiling 5 images in same ring.ffxml

I am sorry to tell that the bad thing is that in the new version of the simplified filter the elements are getting distorted when reaching the center, and so it does not look as good and well done as in the first filter that all the rings were made very well and perfectly and not distorted.

I know that if want to make it better I should change the way the gradients are configuring the rings but I am sorry that do not know how to make them better.

If the object does have a transparent background you will notice much less the distorting effect but the bigger the object is nearer the border the more distortion you will notice.

Thanks for the new version, will try it.

I have to say that the distortion I have told above comes from my own fault when I have scaled the original results, if you use the original filter without the scaling it works right, but the images with the bomber are too small, so I will have to find another way to do it.

Like this:

Circular multitiling images.ffxml

The distortion of the image may be a good thing in some cases -- think Euro cobble challenge -- for it makes the input images conform to the shape of the tile. Which also makes it "circularly seamless" and doesn't leave any gaps.