Is someone here capable of making a filter that can do this.

I've been longing for a for the scale inputs to be map inputs on some of the components, for ages. There are a lot of effects that would be easier to produce this way. In the meantime, I did some tinkering:



Obviously, it needs a bunch of work, but you could use it as a springboard for experimenting. I can already think of a bunch of ways to improve it.

I have attached the filter, so you can play with it.

Sponge Filler.ffxml

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Bombers! Input to the Size parameter and also the Chance parameter. but the maps have to be switched (when size is low, chance is high and vice versa)

Won't the bombers produce overlaps? He explicitly didn't want overlaps.

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Malkyne Won't the bombers produce overlaps? He explicitly didn't want overlaps.

I agree that bomber component does NOT have any control for making NON OVERLAPPING patterns and it will always overlap if there are many elements involved AND it would be in a random way and not organized, unless you have the skills and knowledge to control the placement of the bomber particles as shown by the example of ThreeDee in Pattern Filling (or circle packing)

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ddaydreams I was thinking that a filter to fill a selection with random distorted holes that get smaller toward selection edge would be cool The holes never touch, join or overlap each other and would never touch the edge of the selection. Would that be cool or what? http://www.markdoolittlestudio.com/index.html

I totally agree that this is very cool, amazing and awesome technique and idea, but the bad thing is that this is a very complex mix of math formulaes and fractals and programming.

Thanks very much for showing the awesome and really beautiful works of Mark Doolittle, AND what is more incredible is that they are done BY HAND and not with a 3D printer as others I have seen similar to this.

Now that that you have shown this great beauty of example shown here...



...this remembers me to something similar I have also been searching for and also suggested in some way, that is probably based in a possible similar technique but without the fractal part.

Ghislaine has already shown you the thread I have made about this topic (without the fractal part shown on your example) ---> How would you make this variable dots pattern in FF?

Also there are more threads related to this:

Make this in FF? - Digital Circlism - Artwork with hundreds of circles

ThreeDee have already began to try to make something like this (without the fractal part) in this other dedicated thread seen here --> Pattern Filling (or circle packing) and he has shown the great examples made by Quasimondo's artworks with this technique (without the fractal part)

Regretably it seems that ThreeDee is not working anymore on this "Pattern Filling" and there is no news about it

Inujima has solved and made a filter for this other kind of holes filling (without the fractal part) as can be seen here --> Would be possible to make a dots variation scale for Picture Dots ?

ALSO I have made this other one --> Compilation of Random Space Filling Tiling articles for FF Filters

There is already available ONLY for Apple iPad a awesome software that can make something similar style with this circle packing (without the fractal part) and is called "Percolator App"

When I say "without the fractal part" I mean that to make the example you have shown here I think that it can´t be just using the circle packing technique and needs also some of the fractal part so the holes can be smaller and smaller when they arrive to the edge and bigger far away from the edge.

Although perhaps what I call fractal is not really this and can be some kind of Hyperbolic tiling instead

SPHERICAL HYPERBOLIC TILING FF FILTER

Here is shown an excellent example of Hyperbolic Tiling made already as a filter in Filter Forge Hyperbolic Tiling Challenge

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Malkyne I can think of some good ways to do fractal circle packing, degrading into smaller circles near the edges (and can provide an example, if you want)

Do you know and have a way to make this kind of fractal circle packing with FF?

Yes, I want to have an example and would love to see a filter to make things like this

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The hyperbolic stuff is intriguing, and I need to look at that some more.

Yes, the hyperbolic tiling is interesting and as far as I know is not based on circle packing, but can be useful perhaps, but for now is ONLY AVAILABLE AS SPHERICAL tiling and is not possible to use it to fill a selection (at least with the Inujima´s filter)

Would be very good and lovely idea to make a filter with fractal circle packing or some kind of hyperbolic tiling (or mixing both) that could be used to fill selections in photoshop

good answer Malkyne, although I do not have experience on this, and only can suggest that the most natural and organical fragmentation for me is the Voronoid pattern as found in things like this.

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Quote I agree that bomber component does NOT have any control for making NON OVERLAPPING patterns and it will always overlap if there are many elements involved AND it would be in a random way and not organized, unless you have the skills and knowledge to control the placement of the bomber particles as shown by the example of ThreeDee in Pattern Filling (or circle packing)

ThreeDee was onto somthing. I wish ThreeDee would have posted the filter used to do the Pattern Filling (or circle packing)

Would be possible to make something like this with Filter Forge 5?

I mean that it could include some new features that make it easier to make this

You can do this with Inujima's Hyperbolic Tiling, maybe that's a suitable starting point for this?

Ha! Well-played ThreeDee! I love this community.

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ThreeDee wrote: You can do this with Inujima's Hyperbolic Tiling, maybe that's a suitable starting point for this?

I have tried myself to follow your suggestion and try to get these very well done circles you have done instead of the triangles that are included in the Inujima version, BUT these triangles are done with script, and do not know how to modify the script to modify the triangle to a circle

Also tried to use a black circle as a source image but it does not work, I mean you can´t get this same image using the source image alternative as the circles get broken or mixed and never get this great and perfect separated pattern you have shown

Please, can you be so kind to share the secret on how you have done it?

Thanks for any help

Thanks very much for the filter and is good and interesting how you have modified it for circle effect

When seeing the balls name. it I thought then that thet it could be really balls IF you multiply the effect, I mean use the final resullt as a source for a copy of the same components and this is what you get

And from the original source first source what happens if you add a kaleidoscope component?

And the black circles can be filled with images easily and use the circles with a bevel width and contour to make a frame

Here I have used the FF Lionfish

And additionally instead of solid color circles, it can be used color concentric circles

I just got back from a visit to Mark Doolittle and his wife. The creators of the sculpture at the top of this thread
I was in the area Joshua Tree Calif And they had an open studio weekend so I stopped by there yesterday. Then I got back home today and noticed the renewed interest in this thread. interesting coincidence.